How far back does that go?

It was noted that they went as far back as the 1600s.

I'm sure the breed is a lot older than that because there's so many breeds that exhibit the white ice coloration and it took a long time for those birds to be created to put those colors on top of them.

So you've got multiple breeds with ice, the ice modifier, which are like The Italian owls, there's the Rodani.

I don't know if I'm saying that right, but it's basically an ice Italian owl.

And it's interesting because they judge the Italian owl if they separate them overseas.

And they kind of judge them as their own breed.

it's always been used as like a way to move colors around and it's always been more of a show a show bird in that way