But what do you got going on in Texas that's of concerning to you the way things have kind of morphed into a lot of these other conversations that happen throughout the country?

Well, I've got two.

And the first one is more of a nationwide thing, but it certainly is happening in Texas.

And that one's CWD.

I'm waiting for all of these whitetail herds to just die off from this disease they've been telling me about for, I've been doing this 18 years.

I would say about two years into it is when they started first going into these private ranches and smoking entire deer herds because there was a CWD positive deer or it was traced back to a ranch where they bought a bread dough.

And now we got to come in and euthanize your entire herd.

Yeah, in the, I don't know, teens, 20s, 30s, somewhere in there, wasn't it?

I mean, what's, what's your fears? What's, what are you trying to accomplish with all this?

Well, I just don't know why Texas Parks and Wildlife is negotiating with animal rights activists.

Uh, they work for us, the sportsmen and hunters and anglers that really help, uh, pay their bills, you know? I mean, they...

Their, their mission statement is to provide hunting and fishing opportunity while managing, uh, our, our wildlife, uh, from a scientific perspective.

I mean, that's what they exist to do, right? So we're not here to negotiate with activists, yet one of them serves in the form of, uh, Will Hart.

He's on the board of trustees for the Texas Parks and Wildlife, um, Foundation, which is like the fundraising arm of TPWD.

Him and his wife, so if anyone's familiar with Project Coyote, that is a anti-coyote killing organization, meaning don't trap them, don't hunt them.

Um-