[laughs]

And that.

This is in the '60s.

Maybe three months old, six months old.

Anyhow, now I'm seeing some of the big names in wrestling.

And all that stuff.

And back in that era, it was, none of th- that era, they're all dead now.

Mm-hmm.

At what point in your life did you first hear of pro wrestling?

Well, sure.

I got to cut this down.

We've only got a half an hour.

Next door neighbor was a bodybuilder.

He went in a bodybuilding contest for Mr.

New Zealand in the capital city.

And that

What do you remember about Bad News Brown?

Yes.

I'd known him, I'd known him from Calgary, too.

And, uh, he, he was a judo champion.

I don't know whether he was a medalist in judo, but I heard, I think it was in the Commonwealth Games.

He was, he was a gold medalist or silver medalist in judo.

Now, Bad News Brown, what he said went, you know? He was a guy who could do a handshake and he wouldn't change his mind.

How about that? See, I had no idea that Jim Barnett had started that.

Wow.

Because there's only, he was on three, there was about four televisions in Ontario and Quebec.

And that, he was on two of them as wrestling and one in a talk show because it was, Quebec was Spanish.

Quebec was French, you know.

Yeah.

At that time, the province of Quebec was wanting to pull away from Canada and be their own country.

Yeah.

When do you first encounter Vince McMahon, and when does the WWF first come onto your radar, Luke?