Yeah

And, like, she's such a hard worker.

It's insane to see.

But we tell her every single game, like, "There's only two things you control." I was like, "This is gonna be your, your effort and your attitude."

Yeah.

Like, I keep saying that verse, like, "Whatever I do, I wanna bring glory to God." So if I'm gonna go through cancer, I gotta be not fake and laugh and have all this joy, but I gotta be an example of my effort.

I, I gotta show up.

Mm-hmm.

I don't have to get my ego in the way.

I could...

Uh, he, in the book, he talks about appreciating someone winning first place in a race and you get second place.

Like, it's the same as acknowledging a beautiful sunrise or a sunset.

Yeah.

Like, I keep saying that verse.

Like, whatever I do, I wanna bring glory to God.

Was it then where you decided to start your own thing or did that come later?

It wasn't.

And you touched on it in the intro a little bit.

The thing that actually propelled what made me start this was I still at that point, I worked, like I said, throughout the industry.

I loved it.

In the back of my mind, obviously, it's always the idea saying I would like to... be working for myself or having people work for me and build something that I could actually have more, a bigger part of.

But the cancer piece of it made me kind of shift gears completely because it was scary.

So what went into the decision to treat it completely holistically? And was that against the doctor's advice?

Right?

Right?One of the things that has come up for me while we've been sitting here and just listening to you share and watching your humility come out, um, it's a beautiful thing on my side- Awesome.

Thank you ... to get to witness.

Um, but I'd, I'd, I'd love to touch on what did you learn about yourself? Like, what did that season teach you about you that you didn't know about you? The biggest takeaway, I mean, there's no way that I would've learned it, but understanding immortality and time is a concept you hear always.

Everyone in this, in the recovery world, we say we take it one day at a time, and most people say, you know, "I can't control tomorrow," and it's, it's a beautiful concept and an idea that sounds great.

And it's like, yeah, I understand that, but you don't really fully understand that until you actually are face to face with the idea that I don't have tomorrow.

Mm.

Very good.