If you could create a tenth position on the diamond, where would it be?

How about, like, a Savannah Bananas thing, where, like, you get one person in the stands.

Or, like, not stands, foul territory.

You can put them anywhere, like, around.

And if they catch it, if it's in the stands, it's an out still.

Really?

This past year.

OK.

What do you remember about him, and what had you heard about him and throwing to him for the first time?

Yeah, it took a while for me to throw to him.

The first time, yeah, so we met in whatever, Arizona, I think, before camp had started.

I think we'd played golf a little bit.

Obviously, I knew who he was.

I'd hung out with, like, Emerson and Logan, so guys that had got drafted in years prior that knew him.

But...

How do you manage a catcher?

What do you remember about him and what had you heard about him and throwing to him for the first time?

Yeah, it took a while for me to throw to him.

The first time, yeah, so we met in whatever, Arizona, I think, before camp had started.

I think we played golf a little bit.

Obviously, I knew who he was.

I'd hung out with Emerson and Logan, so guys that had... got drafted in years prior that knew him.

But yeah, it took a while, honestly, for me to meet him.

How do you manage a catcher?

How do you describe yourself as a pitcher? Like, what are your strengths? What's your style?

Um, just try to do the simple things really well, the little things.

Especially coming up and starting out as a pitcher, like, never, never threw too too hard, didn't have the best stuff.

But, um, think something that allowed me to, to develop so well with the Mariners is just, uh, putting the importance on doing the little things really well and doing them at a high level.

Stuff that, you know, any, any pitcher could do no matter how hard you throw or what your stuff looks like.

Um, can always be in good counts and always execute pitches to the best of your ability and, um, yeah, that's what I try to do.

Did I hear this story right? Did the Giants at one point try to sign you? Is that, is that a true story?

[laughs] Yeah.

What do we got?

Well, I mean, it's not like a groundbreaking story, but no, we were, uh, so I got drafted in '21 with, uh, with surgery with TJ.

And so I was rehabbing in Arizona, and he was with the Padres at the time before the Soto trade.

And, uh, so I was coming back from TJ and I'm, like, doing one of my first rehab outings and, uh, I'd had like a pretty up and down rehab.

Uh, not with...

Like, uh, with my arm, but, like normal, with, with all the elbow stuff.

Um, but I was coming back from TJ and I was, like, kind of ready to get going.

How long does something like that sit with you in the off-season?