Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, I think obviously felt needs are real.

You know, we're talking to people that are going through tough circumstances in life, and they're trying to navigate the, [coughs] the flood of n- news and media and information and content and whatnot.

And so the gospel does address that, and we wanna be able to speak into that, so we can't ignore that.

I think if we ignore that, we're not rightly trying to help serve our people.

But that being said, I think we've all been in a context, we were talking about this in our little group, in the context where you hear the gospel preached and at the same time, same sermon maybe or different sermon, you've heard what you need to be doing.

So in other words, um, um, uh, like a moralizing type of a message.

I met somebody recently at, like, a, at a pastors' gathering, and it was like, "Hey, what's your name?" You know? And then I just kind, I just sat there silently as I just heard how this guy is killing it in this and that and that and that, and I was like, "I- It's just, it's just a monologue of, of just how great things have been doing lately, so.