That's very good.

And I fully kind of embrace that idea as well.

And I remember, so when I left Franklin, the second time I went to work for a technology company, relatively, you know, about a thousand person technology company, the best managed company I've ever worked for.

CEO.

Can you say who it was? Documentum CEO was Jeff Miller.

And we ended up, you know, I joined there in early 2000.

And just everybody on that executive team was smart.

I think that for me is part of the theme here and you're still going.