You know what? I wanna do film scoring." Like, how did that enter your atmosphere?

So it was always there, but at the time, especially, like, Rockwood days, and it was always such, like, a pipe dream because I was like, "I don't know how I'd do that." And I mean, at, at the time, especially when, like, the whole Rockwood thing was going on, I was playing in five bands regularly, and all the freelance stuff, and teaching, and my own practicing.

So I had, like, no time to, like, learn the craft.

But then around 2018, I was like, "All right.

I really, really wanna do this," 'cause I've always loved music, and I've always loved the story behind the music.

And especially in, in bands growing up and all the bands I've, I've been in, that conversation around in creating a song, what do you guys think? What do you picture in your mind? Are y- where are you? And, and painting the story, you know, maybe it's behind the lyrics, but sometimes just around how that guitar line sounds or how that beat goes or, like, what that keyboard sound sounds like, and you have an image and you create a story, and that story was always, like, the center of, of everything I'm doing musically.

So when I had the opportunity to match that to film, it just...

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