That'd be interesting

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it would to see, like, to see, well, do they st- stay taking the drugs? Do they keep, do, do, do, do the lads keep doing it or do they, do they, do they decide to switch it off? There's, there's always a thing of retained benefit, so, and, and the, the, beyond the Enhanced Games, just in general if you're talking about athletes who get caught taking performance-enhancing drugs, um, [smacks lips] one thing from a, from a physiology point of, my, my background would be in, in, in exercise physiology.

From, from a physiology point of view, um, you know, if you or I go to the gym and we do a load of weight training without performance-enhancing drugs, we will get a little bit stronger, our muscles will hypertrophy and grow, and part of that growth process is that they develop, um, a, these special cells.

They're called satellite cells, and they're what help generate the proteins, help generate the muscle m- and to increase your muscle mass.

So a regular person, if you go to the gym and you train for six months or a year, you'll get a little bit of extra muscle.

You'll develop all these extra satellite cells in your, in- inside your muscles, and then let's say you take a break, whatever.

Yeah

We also had a number of people who were juiced up to the gills lose to people who were clean.

Yeah, yeah, that was really interesting.

I think that's a kind of a really fatal blow to the organisers on this.

The big story was probably Hunter Armstrong, who's an American swimmer aiming to compete in LA 2028.

And he entered because of the guaranteed prize money.

For anyone who didn't watch the events, like the events were limited to four or six athletes in the event.

So in the pool, there was only four swimmers per event.

have these athletes done themselves significant damage

In these enhanced games, everyone, if they choose to, is on drugs and it's all out in the open.

Well, if you'll allow me, I just want to circle back to the first point that you made there about the substances being used having FDA approval.

And I think that is a very clever marketing ploy that is used to give a veneer of scientific integrity to what is being done.

The drugs that the athletes were taking do have FDA approval, but it would be FDA approval to treat medical conditions.

It would be to take people who are unwell and bring them back to wellness to make them healthy if they're sick.

So the FDA approval is for those drugs to be used in very specific circumstances, to be prescribed in very specific doses to treat illness.

The FDA approval is not given for what we saw last night, which is giving supraphysiological doses to athletes to enhance their performance.

level playing field?