Yeah.

Retails don't exist much.

For the really good operators that are still out there, it's a tough gig.

Yeah.

Tough gig for them.

People don't have as much money to spend.

They're coming back to the wineries.

Do you have any advice, I guess, for your two grandsons, Henry and Edward, if they were to enter the business and take it over, how to survive?