It's kind of a... you have to kind of take a leap of faith almost but it's it's there's something there when you do

absolutely yeah it's that's uh there's tara she is the savior is the she who carries us across the the ocean the samsara you know the ocean of worldly existence and it and you know she's that that And that little ferry boat, you could say that carries you across and the left hand path.

The.

Is about stepping away from what is known and comfortable and clearly demarcated way for society to follow and you decide to turn the opposite way and to discover it on your own and.

uh trusting in whatever it is you want to call it whether it's a whatever your your devotion is aimed towards but there's that inner truth that knowingness that knowing within that no i'm not meant to go to church every sunday even though you know i think jesus is cool he was a you know probably a sorcerer and was you know uh kind of a you know teaching people to look within but you know the teachings of course over time they through this arch and then they ascend and then they descend and things are in that sense it was I couldn't relate to that whole have the help the whole heaven and hell you know I have some religious trauma I suppose from childhood of that whole heaven and hell that's what made me start searching was If you don't follow this way, then you're going to go to hell.

If you're not worship calling God by this name, then you're definitely going to hell.

And I questioned that very early.

So that actually makes a lot of sense to me.