Well,

and then at the end of spring, Jesse Mentor, his comment, I don't have it in front of me, but it was fascinating to me because he said, well, our goal of this mini camp was to get all three of them in position to compete in July.

And I said, boy, that's just word salad.

That's a complete non-answer.

In other words, they don't know.

You know, I think they're going into this with their fingers crossed.

I wouldn't be surprised to see some sort of trade being made.

these bells and whistles.