this thing that it is today, but what's it been like for you as the wife and mother of two kids kind of watching this thing grow from idea to where it is today?

Wow, that's a very layered question.

There's so many layers to that question.

I'm going to answer that in three ways.

So the first layer is, as you mentioned, I've been on this journey with you as your wife for 17 years, almost 17 years, almost 16 years.

But we've been partners in some form for years.

almost 30 years.

It's