Do you find those reports credible, or is it more of like a legend?

Always grew up with that legend, that she still haunts the square, and for a long time I thought it was a legend, right? Until I started doing the tours, and about, I wanna say, maybe about six to eight months ago, it's about 1:00 in the morning, and I'm on the phone with my mother walking through Wright Square heading back to my house, which is right there.

And as I'm leaving the square, all of a sudden, I, I'm on the phone with my mom, and we both hear this woman wailing, like screaming.

So I stop and I turn around thinking a woman's getting attacked, and I grab the mace off my backpack.

And my mother's like, "Who's that?" And I said, "I don't know, but I..." It was like, "You heard that woman screaming, too." And so I go through each area of the square thinking a woman's getting attacked, and I told my mother, I said, "Mom, there's nobody in the square.

Like, no one." And she goes, "Oh my God, just go home." She was like, "If you're in Wright Square," she was like, "I don't know." She was like, "If there's nobody there..." And I said, "No, there's no signs, but there's nobody out.

That's the thing.

Mm.

But I think having a, a healthy sense of skepticism is good in what you do.

It does, because the way that I look at things is, for example, I've gone and done paranormal investigations at people's homes, and I like to walk into a place and not automatically assume that it's haunted, you know? Because sometimes, what if there's something so much deeper than something that's spooky and supernatural? It, it could vary from, like, you know, carbon monoxide poisoning, or if somebody does have something going on in their personal life, you know? Um, it's about trying to help somebody n- not just in the spooky aspect, but if there is something that needs to dive deeper into, then, you know, finding somebody that can help them.

Because I personally, like, if there's somebody who has, like, a mental illness, I can't help them.

When I dealt with somebody who did have issues, you know, their family was actually contacting me, and I did believe that there were some things going on in the house, whether it was from them manifesting it, um, things like that.

But, like, to have their family involved where it's like, "Hey, um, you know, this is what's kinda going on, and it's me speculating, but you might wanna try to have them seek some help more than what they already have." And, you know, I, I'm a full believer when it comes to the paranormal, but there's so many variables when it comes to the paranormal.

I believe that people can manifest stuff and talk it into existence.

If they do have mental health crisis, y- like, a mental health crisis going on, that could stem from it, too, and I've kind of noticed that.

Yeah.