I was going to ask you if you're looking for a stud, so you're newer into this, what would you guys be looking for, for a stallion?

Well, we would look to some of the old-timers to help us pick that out.

Okay.

Because we don't have, you know, I look at Kathy and I say, you have to teach me about genetics because there is so much to learn.

And Ben Arnold, I mean, he is so willing to help teach about genetics.

That's what we would look for.

But from a riding perspective, we really want to push the riding because we think that would help the association because you've got, You've got a million people out there that can drop a few thousand dollars.

They already have their own discipline and shows and their own world show that How do you find the right shows to make sure that you can exhibit your Clydesdale? Because I think that's one of the things for the riding members is where do you find the places where you can belong if it's not put on by the Breeders Association?