But, I mean, you know, it's just like one of those things where I wonder how much we don't even still know about, like, within... skeletal remains of old

stuff.

Or are not allowed to see.

There was a Canadian filmmaker who went to Peru in the 1990s because Peru was going through this Maoist rebellion of terrorists.

And so in order to restore faith in tourism, this Canadian filmmaker was brought there in order to make films for the government about how wonderful Peru is and all the beautiful stuff.

And so the president met up with him and said, we're so thankful for this work you're doing.

Do you have any requests? that I can help you with.

Is there anything you have coming up, like some tours that are going to be popping off, your new book, anything you need to?

What do you think about the whole timeline thingy?

Well, that's a very complex question, but Gobekli Tepe is a good... is a good case in point because they have through radiocarbon testing, they have proven that it's at least 11,000 years old, but the construction technique is incredibly sloppy.

I've been there and, you know, it was good for half an hour.

That was about it.

Cause I don't see any great mystery.

You know, people go, Oh my God, I have to see Gobekli Tepe.

Well, it's worth seeing, but for me, it's one of those places that's good to see once because how it was built and And the material it was made from isn't very complex.

italy has a bunch of them like there's all they're all over india they're they're just like the weird boulder that has like you know it looks like a tetris game was played on it um

What's like the latest thing that's been going on with the skulls, like the elongated skulls?

We've had nothing for two years because of COVID.

Everything's been shut down.

My major connection to getting samples.

died of COVID about a month ago.

All the museums have been closed.

Most of Peru has been shut down for quite a long time.

Have you found any recent ones in back catalogs or in storage that have made it to light recently that have added to the museums that you have and that you supported?

Okay, Brian, so before we get into the heart of these ancient sites in Peru, I would love you to tell everybody about your story and how you ended up all the way down in Peru exploring not only Peru but Bolivia, Egypt, and all these ancient locations because you have a fascinating story.

Okay, growing up, I had the great pleasure of having a fascination from early childhood with ancient, mysterious places.

My family got a subscription to National Geographic.

So whenever there was anything about Egypt or Peru or Easter Island, I was always consuming that with great hunger.

And then when I was 16, I got to go to England for the first time with a friend.

We went to Stonehenge and visited ancient castles.

And then about 20 years ago, I began to do this full time, simply exploring ancient places, especially with an emphasis on megalithic sites.

At

So can you talk about that? Like, that's amazing.

Well, it is.

There are two types of stone, Pumapuku and Tiwanaku.

They're actually the same place.

They do this archaeologist label differently.

I don't know why.

But they are the same place.

Yeah,

So, I mean, I, how do you, how do you conflate or not? I don't know what the word is, but how do you justify the timelines not matching or, you know, like the, you know, this being, uh, peru stuff supposedly being a thousand or two thousand years ago or you know and gobekli tepe being eleven thousand years like years ago like how with all these things that they do match they do look like they were using similar building techniques what do you think about the whole timeline thingy

well that's a very complex question but gobekli tepe is a good is a good case in point because they have through radiocarbon testing, they have proven that it's at least 11,000 years old.

But the construction technique is incredibly sloppy.

I've been there and it was good for half an hour.

That was about it because I don't see any great mystery.

People go, oh, my God, I have to see Gobekli Tepe.

Well, it's worth seeing.

i just wonder how much stuff there are i mean and i i was like this is amazing you should tell everybody and they were like tell nobody oops but i mean you know it's just like one of those things where i wonder how much we don't even still know about like within skeletal remains of old stuff