You were, I think, the highest ranking, uh, uh, transgender person, but, uh, this is happening throughout the services, down through, through the officer ranks and the enlisted ranks, I suppose.

Yeah.

It is a process that is really just a kangaroo court, where people are guilty before any evidence is shown if there is no other outcome.

Because the orders have been passed down that if anyone ever had, uh, a diagnosis or symptoms of gender dysphoria, which is something the government required us to get in order to transition within the military, that they fall under this executive order and need to be kicked out, despite whatever evidence is offered.

And just this morning, in fact, I got a message from a major saying, "I just got identified.

My board is coming up.

Will you write me a letter of support?" And they're trying to get hundreds of these letters.

I mean, is that, am I wrong? With that did exist, and-

This is Colonel Brie Fram.

What held me back for the longest time from getting the diagnosis is you must have clinically significant distress, and the thought of going to someone saying, "You're clinically distressed and in some way incapable of doing something" was really painful 'cause it never affected my ability to do my job in any way.

But having that on a medical record is still scary.

She wanted some more time to come out and adjust to this new identity and give others time to adjust to this new identity.

Being put on the clock was awful.

You need to make the decision right now about where you might be in the future.