So what were libraries like where you grew up and like obviously working in Queens, working in Iowa? What did you take from these libraries that you wanted to apply to Hartford Public Library and you took over?

When I was a kid, the library, I mean, I don't know if it's the same as your experience, but it was really a refuge for me.

As I said, I was fortunate enough to grow up in a literacy-rich environment, and yet I still really loved going to the library.

And we had this huge, really adorable little library in my hometown, teeny tiny, probably about as big as my office.

But it was a place that I always felt welcome and comfortable.

And I think that experience, when I started thinking about libraries as a career, that fundamental experience really has guided me.

However, what I learned over time And because of all my different experiences is how different libraries are depending on the communities they serve.

How often are ESL classes available? Are they available day and night? Are they available kind of year round? Year round,