Right.

I mean, we come to firehouses, I always say like, "When's the best time at a firehouse?" Right? It's after a fire.

And everybody's like, "Oh, it's great, you know.

It's, I got to break stuff.

I got to flow water.

I get to put a fire out." And I always tell them, it's like, "That's not really the core.

The core reason you're excited is because you provided value to yourself, value to your team, and you had value in the time you put into the training," right? So like I think the same thing as an organization when I was, you know, as the president and I was leading it was if we can create opportunities for our members, if we can get them involved and engaged, and then, you know, cross-pollinate with other organizations that have a like mindset, um, the IFF, you know, uh, North American Fire Training Directors, uh, Fire Engineering, FDIC, how can we partner with them to give our members more opportunities? Well, then our members are gonna have more value.

Yeah.