So how does that change the relationship people have with the place? And how does that shape your team's mindset when designing the city before people come to basically provide them a canvas or a petri dish to build on?

You know, I think that people think of themselves as stewards of both the land and the culture that's built in Black Rock City.

So I think people feel like active agents in building what we create and what we do and how we care for all of that.

And I think that one of the principles of the 10 that we have is civic engagement and another is communal effort.

And those really help people lean on the fact that you're not this solo individual out there.

You're actually part of a network of people and not just a network of people, but truly a community that is there to support each other.

The test of that often come when there are things like, you know, lots of rain for days or the test of that come from when you forgot or something breaks down and you need extra hands to help you fix that thing.

When you think about community building, when you think about city building, when you think about urban planning and you come back into, you know, the city of San Francisco where you live, what do you think that urbanists and city builders can learn from Black Rock City? I think about the visible and invisible systems.