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trial.

Well, I didn't know it was going to take six and a half years to get to trial.

By the time trial comes around, one of them's an adult and the other one was on the agent, the custom majority.

But the defense refused to agree to let them testify.

The judge denied my motion.

So I used what I learned at trial.

And if you can do that, Brian, I think what you're showing the jurors is that you care so much about your client that you've gotten to know her or him so well that they they start feeling some of what you're feeling too when you're doing that direct examination yeah absolutely and i