Mm-hmm.

So I thought, "Oh, well, you know, the trumpet only has three buttons." You know, I called them buttons back then.

And [laughs] that looked like something easy to start, so I started there and was really, really terrible, uh, like most kids when they start out, you know.

For a couple years, um, didn't really getEven in my little town, like I, I was at the bottom of the trumpet section, you know? And, uh, then as you mentioned, Maynard came along to Evansville, Indiana, which is only an hour from where I grew up, and that's the biggest town, you know, anywhere in, in quite a ways radius.

So I, uh, went to hear him play.

It was funny, he was at the Musician's Union Hall in Evansville, and, uh, it was general admission.

So I just got to sit right in front of Maynard because there happened to be two seats right in front, like literally right in front of him.

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