Did you learn anything? [laughs]

I did.

Um, it was nice to hear a lot of the successes, but, you know, in our line of work and kinda growing up, if you can learn from people's failures, then it kinda keeps you from making that failure.

So hearing everybody's little stories and some of the things that were their shortcomings and some of the things they were really strong in-

[laughs]

Yeah.

But, um, I ended up, um, about a year and a half ago, I had met up with a friend who does a lot of hiking, and it was kind of in the back of my mind.

And she gave me a lot of information on it and, uh, started helping me prep and plan.