Like, it's like God kind of helps us figure out what we really should have done or need to do almost by learning what not to do, and I'm curious, were there any specific lessons that you learned during that period that kinda helped shape the decisions that were made later?

That's a great question.

Um, I, I think, I think of two just huge lessons for me, um, that, that became apparent over time.

[lips smack] One is the importance of knowing your customer and being to-- willing to kinda give up negotiable things, um, so that you can not minister to empty beds.

And when I mean negotiable things, I don't mean giving up your commitment to scripture or, [chuckles] you know, things like that.

But maybe there's a way that your camp has done things and you really truly believe that this is the way we do it.

This is us.

What were some of the other big strategic or operational changes that you guys made together?

Like, it's like God kind of helps us figure out what we really should have done or need to do almost by learning what not to do, and I'm curious, were there any specific lessons that you learned during that period that kinda helped shape the decisions that were made later?

That's a great question.

Um, I, I think, I think of two just huge lessons for me, um, that, that became apparent over time.

One is the importance of knowing your customer and being to-- willing to kinda give up negotiable things, um, so that you can not minister to empty beds.

And when I mean negotiable things, I don't mean giving up your commitment to scripture or, [chuckles] you know, things like that.

But maybe there's a way that your camp has done things and you really truly believe that this is the way we do it.

This is us.

What were some of the other big strategic or operational changes that you guys made together?