But anyway, go ahead.

Yeah.

And, you know, here I am thinking Mr. Know-It-All, but I, I, I know how to grab it.

I'm with your dad, and I don't want him to think that, you know, I'm, I'm a, a wimp, and I'm hanging it off and, and wrestling with it, so I grab it, and, uh, next thing I know, I come to, um, and I look down, and I've got my foot impaled by this sail cat.

And so like anybody would, I grabbed it, and my hand gets impaled by the other spine, and I think I went out for a little bit again.

[laughs]

All the thoughts.

I mean, your, your two best buddies just go down, and again, it felt like forever, so Matt's saying, "Let's do this." I'm saying, "Let's do that." And he's a tall guy, so I've got him on the bow ju- just looking, you know, just constantly looking and, you know, I guess, you didn't say north, but I knew the direction you were heading in, so we were somewhat trying to fight that.

Yeah

... at, at 30-day mark.

And during that first 30 days, we're also working with them and asking them, "Hey, you, you started, you've worked two weeks of events now.

What do you like? What don't you like? What do you think is the most successful ones?" And we have, we have their input to book month two of their marketing calendar, like 30 through 60 days, and then we start booking that, uh, 60 to 100-day marketing point as well.

So we get their input once they've had some under their belt, because I find most, most chiropractors, most associates have never worked a marketing event in their life.

So to drop them in week one or before that and ask them, "What do you like? What don't you like?" They have no idea.

So we, we put them into the deep end of the pool pretty quickly, but I'm right there side, side by side with them.

Mm.

What is the history behind Hattie Bees?

So Hattie B's was founded by a father and son both named Nick in 2012 in Nashville, named after Junior's first daughter Hattie, but also grandmother and great-grandmother.

So Hattie really is a legacy of taking care of people that informs what we do today.

Okay, and what is the star on the menu for Hattie B's?

The star on the menu is definitely our hot chicken, especially our jumbo chicken tenders.

Now, this weekend, we're doing them up with our seasoned crinkle cut fries or deep fried Belgian waffles.

So there's a couple incredible ways to do it.

Or if you just want to do fries, just waffles, we'll do whatever you want to do.

was your path to Hattie B's? Oh, my path to

Hattie B's was good luck.

In 2014, the company that I'd been working for for about six years got bought by a private equity and they laid everybody off.

And so I spent about a year consulting and just good fortune led me to Nick and Nick Bishop, the father and son that founded Hattie B's.

About two years prior, they were in a moment of inflection and I was lucky enough to be one of the very first headquarters employees.

So, yeah, it's it's my last job.

I couldn't be happier to represent the official food of my hometown.

Well,

Stay tuned to Bound by Oath for the, for, for the, the details on that in our next episode.

So the, the, you know, the two main kind of, um, federal rules of evidence that every law student, you know, ends up having to memorize is 803, which is kind of the exceptions to hearsay, which you would have, like, the pre- you know, a classic one would be an excited utterance or a present sense impression, which the car example would probably qualify as a present sense impression 'cause you're, it's a statement you made while you're kind of actively viewing something.

And then you also have Rule 804, which is a long, um, has exceptions for when the declarant, uh, the person who made the statement's unavailable.

Um, you know, this is, like, the classic someone, it's, it's former testimony or, you know, something that was under oath or, you know, it's, like, s- imminent death, somebody m- like, their last dying breath says something, um, or a statement against interest, something like that, something that could be, um, an exception to hearsay under Rule 804.

And the, in this case, the, if the particular exception is 804(b)(1), which must be former testimony at a trial hearing or a deposition, so it's kind of something under oath, and it's offered against a party or predecessor, an interest who had a similar motive to cross the witness.

So with that kind of hearsay background, this case is, is a lot like a lot of cases we see at Loevy where there was somebody who was, um, shot and killed.

It was a tragic, uh, tragic case in Baltimore, and then the cops start investigating.

Uh, but in real life, it's actually, uh, a pretty horrific practice.