Uh, when you were coming up, was there a... 'Cause, you know, in reading your stories, and I knew it 'cause I n- knew it coming up, but was there, did you just live fight to fight, or did you look at things like, "This is my career, this is my job"? When did it turn into, "I'm not just living fight to fight anymore"?

Well, I was working at a cable company for Armstrong.

I was a lineman.

I was climbing poles in the buck- bucket truck, running fiber lines, and I'd, you know, I just, I treated it like my job.

Like, it was something that, you know, was way funner than going to work eight hours a day, 40 hours a week.

And, um, and I, it ended up providing for my family a lot.

I made a lot more than I would've staying at the cable company.

That there are enough kids out there that wanna be led?

Uh, when you were coming up, was there a... 'Cause, you know, in reading your stories, and I knew it 'cause I n- knew it coming up, but was there, did you just live fight to fight, or did you look at things like, "This is my career, this is my job"? When did it turn into, "I'm not just living fight to fight anymore"?

Well, I was working at a cable company for Armstrong.

I was a lineman.

I was climbing poles in the buck- bucket truck, running fiber lines, and I'd, you know, I just, I treated it like my job.

Like, it was something that, you know, was way funner than going to work eight hours a day, 40 hours a week.

And, um, and I, it ended up providing for my family a lot.

I made a lot more than I would've staying at the cable company.

That there are enough kids out there that wanna be led?