But are there any that you specifically would recommend looking into that sets up that automation?

Yeah.

You know, budgeting's a real personal thing.

So if you have an app, there's, there's-- and I think there's countless ones out there, right? So if you find one that is comfortable for you, you like using it, you, you've grown used to it, absolutely.

I'm not telling anyone to discard any of their methods, right? Um, so you go, go online, and you see a 50/30/20 calculator.

You put in your paycheck, your take-home pay.

That's gonna do all the math for you.

Anyone else have anything to add about tips on getting those conversations started?