Yeah,

absolutely.

And I don't want to pretend like I will, but I do think there's a couple of things that are worth talking about and taking away from the panel.

And as you said, Claire, I'd say that what our discussion kind of fell into three buckets.

It's what impact the ADA had, kind of like a history and a backward looking focus, a focus on like, what are the major challenges we're seeing in the legal landscape going forward? And then the third kind of is, in addition to what sort of legal challenges we see, what legal changes we'd like to see in addition to the ADA.

And I think that the first bucket, I think, most of the discussion would prob, we covered a lot in there, but I think the stuff that like stuck with me is we kind of, we went right after the VSA panels.

So we, I know I picked up and I think my co-panelists also picked up on some of the interesting data that they shared and I'll let you talk about them.

devices.

And Brian, what is your experience with disability law?

So, um, I kept a pretty, uh, active pro bono practice while I was at Covington, so I, I took on, uh, several ADA enforcement cases while I was there.

Um, and even before I joined Covington, um, I, um, while I was still in law school, I, um, interned at DOJ Civil Rights in their disability rights section, where I got to help enforce most of the major titles of the ADA while I was there.

Um, and I also worked on, uh, the Civil Rights Litigation Clearinghouse, where we, uh, collected and summarized cases, uh, for advocates and, uh, pro bono litigators, um, to provide greater access to court documents.

Mm

... that were being denied, um, effective communication.

They weren't, um, they weren't being given access to video phones to communicate with their friends and family outside of prison.

They weren't being deni- they, they were being denied of, um, aids and services for, um, disciplinary hearings, and some of them were getting disciplined for not following instructions that they couldn't hear.