So maybe from the standpoint of what you built with DLMI, maybe share with our audience, what is the secret recipe for that balance?

Yeah, well, I think as technology and regulatory evolves, depending on your listeners and where they are in the world, then different jurisdictions have different rules and laws.

But if you just focus on the US as an example, I think it's a phenomenal time for small businesses, family-owned businesses that are on Main Street to start utilizing some of these tokenization components to the customer base that's either going into their small retail store or their their houseware store, their coffee shop, their restaurant, whatever it is.

Now, think about your local community being part of the future growth of your company, not just a customer.

But if you were to start attaching and looking at and learning about how do I apply a token, to maybe a profit or revenue share of some aspect of my business where you have that customer that's in your premise and in your store.

So you have the opportunity to speak with them.

They're supporting you either as a first time shopper or first time guests, or they're continuously come to you.

So what, What do you think in terms of sustainability of the tokens? And also, obviously, as you know, I'm big on the sustainability space in terms of the resources that's being used with this technology, specifically energy and water.

What has been some things that you have learned from trying to merge these? Were there any mistakes? Were there any surprise learnings that you came

across? Well, many.

any industry in its infancy, everybody's learning, right? I still don't think there's any experts in this space.

I don't care, myself included.

We have a really strong vision.

We knew where the markets were going.

We're good at that, and we nailed that.

How do you overcome that?