But before we talk about the game itself, because there are some things to learn from that, your thoughts on them getting that extra second and just kind of the way they live life up in Ann Arbor.

First of all, I just think the average college football fan is just very tired of their sanctimony about what a wonderful liberal arts college we are, and it's so difficult to get in here, and we have such high standards for our academics and our behavior because they don't.

As the illustrations you've made, and they always seem to skate.

They never seem to really get punished for all these... frankly, transgressions of good behavior and good sporting ethics.

And that's not even to say, how many times do they get in a fight in the tunnel with Michigan State or Ohio State? And there's just never any repercussions.

They're never penalized, I think is what people are tired of.

And know i don't in being honest i don't begrudge michigan for trying to play well with an extra play they didn't you know by all accounts it's not their choice to have been given an extra play it's just it's the classic bureaucratic mess that you know rankles me and that we've talked about and that the more people in offices and away from the field that decide what happens on the field the worse it gets and you know case in point was obviously that absurd replay where we're told there's some secret clock which is a hundred percent a lie and number two we're told as consumers and supporters of this sport that what we see with our own eyes is not what actually happened And people in this country are just tired of that.

What did you see out of Underwood? And of course, we have to talk about the fact that Whittingham left the door wide open and saying that his position as starting quarterback is not infinite going forward.