You know, that for the longest time was the finance industry.

And, and did you go to the same school as us? I mean, I have somebody sh- they were looking to get in to, um, somewhere and they said, "Okay, if you didn't go to Stanford, don't even bother," right? "We may look at you if you went to Berkeley, but that's a secondary," right? So it's, that's the type of club.

That's where the VC community grew up, around in, in the, in, in the Bay Area, and now has translated actually onto the East Coast of, of, of the US.

But what I like particular about venture capital is, take it away from the name and, and everything, to me, I, like I even call myself a social venturist versus a venture capitalist.

And what I think it is, is that exact same problem I faced with NEI.

I can't select what I'm doing if I'm just putting it into these big funds, and I'm hoping they do the right thing, and they report on what they're doing properly.

And I don't, as much as I love having you and, and be able to analyze these things and go deep, 'cause that's what you do for, uh, investors out there in your audience, I wanna be able to trust what I put it into.

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