I find myself getting very frustrated, because I have no idea how to proceed.

Sure.

Sure.

Um, I mean, the first thing that comes to mind is, you know, when I, when I think ab- back to when my kids were young and, you know, w- it was the temper tantrums, there's...

W- we as parents experience such intense emotions in that moment that it's really hard to regulate our own emotions, let alone the emotions of our children.

Um, and so that, that's kind of one piece of this that I think we wanna understand is, you know, what is happening for, for the, uh, the partner here in these situations? You know, and if, if those experiences are so uncomfortable, just hearing the crying or the public embarrassment or, or whatever it is that kind of, you know, is, is, um, so upsetting to, to the parent, um, we wanna try to figure out kind of how we can help them manage that better in that situation.

And sometimes it, it is like you can't...

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