If you don't mind sharing, I'm curious to hear a little bit about that journey and how that affected this perspective that you've eloquently spoken on earlier today.

I definitely will resonate before I go into the story itself that like, you know, with the leadership conferences and just reflection, you really do realize, and as you talk to more people, get other people's perspectives, you only really understand what you understand already.

So when you share something, the only way I can understand it is by going based off what I already know.

So the power to experience something really does allow you to understand it from a whole different arena and really like feel and feel invigorated and motivated by it.

So I agree.

You can really treat and understand patients at a very different level when you've gone through it.

And a really easy example for the listeners, 'cause maybe they haven't struggled with certain diseases or f- whatever it is, but anxiety.

Did you have some struggle where you didn't have the time to kind of entertain the things and scratch that itch and learn about some of the stuff that you're passionate about, podcasts, that kind of stuff? If so, how'd you handle it?