Right

... to a foreign intelligence service, right? So they can find out a lot about you.

Second, what they can do is they can say, "You know what? Uh, look, uh, we represent a very prestigious well-known think tank," in this case the Macdonald-Laurier Institute, "and we n- we have seen your work, and we're terribly impressed by it.

And we'd be willing to give you some contracts to do a little research for us, and then, you know, we'll promote you.

And, you know, Canadians wanna hear all about all your ideas," and so on.

And people get quite flattered by this, Ben.

And they say, "Hey, well, there's a few bucks in it for me, and I, you know, do a little research." But then you see, once you take the bait, they, they then start to reel you in.

Yeah