But having the enforcers, the tough guys.

Yeah.

Well, you know, I got traded.

Uh, I wasn't really playing a lot.

You know, I think I played 52 games total that year, and I think, uh, I think maybe- ... 30-some with Calgary, so I wasn't really in tune with y- you know, like it was my first full year.

I didn't really understand the nuance of all of it, right? Right.

I just was like a young guy just trying to stay in the line-up, trying to, you know, just do what I do.

Or semis.