yeah no kid did you uh how did that collaboration come about like were you guys buds out on tour or were you just working at the same for z-man at the same time how'd that come about

so um marizo and i obviously i'd known marizo since he started out in the west since like probably 2001 and him and i always been really really good friends and uh You know, after I won four majors on the chatterbait, I came to Marizo and kind of was like, hey, we need to get Evergreen to design it, and it'll just be a JDM bait because of the patent.

And he's like, okay.

So we designed it.

Winyah Bay, I got second place on it at the Bassmaster Elite.

And I said something about it.

And I was driving.

pumpkin.