What do you say to that?

Oh, look, that's outrageous.

I mean, look, there are only 366 women in the Victorian prison system, and they have across two jails.

They've got a whole lot of units there, not just the wardens' unit, but there are a number of different units where six people can be held together very easily, and some people can be in quite comfortable social environments where they feel safe, as they're entitled to.

and have people around them with whom they can be friendly and mutually supportive.

So the idea that a person's in prison and therefore they should be subject to...

We're talking about defined by the United Nations as being a breach of the entitlements for people to be held with other human beings in social situations.

There's no trained peer support mentors to help people, is there?