Would you mind just sharing what those are? And then I'd love to ask some questions about that.

Yeah, absolutely, Debra, happy to.

So the three types of people that we work with, number one is the Indian technology professional who generally lives in the US.

There's somebody who's been technical and engineer most of their life, let's say at Amazon, and they just got promoted into a leadership role or they're already a leader, but they're not performing as well as they want because they spent too much time coding and not enough time leading others and learning the leadership skills required to actually get to SVP, to get to VP.

That's our first ideal client.

Yeah.

The second one is really the person who is the visionary entrepreneur, someone who has a big vision for the world, but the vision is not matching the quality of their communication.

What is your vision for the business?

L- how much of her childhood do you know?

Uh, if I'm being honest, I, I don't know a lot, but I think what I, what I do understand from it, and I think it's a great reminder that I should ask her more questions [laughs] is, is she grew up in a family of seven to eight other siblings.

That's one piece.

So a lot of her childhood was really around not having enough, so they would fight all the time, lovingly and unlovingly, ar- around the last piece of food, and that's a lot of her piece.

She would spend a lot of her time in the garden getting things done, like vegetables, fruit, things like that, so they could sell back to other villagers.

She, she grew up in a really small village within Sri Lanka.

And how it worked in, in those times anyways is most of the marriages were arranged.

So who's a, a family role model for you?