same as psychedelics so yeah i'm curious what your thoughts are with men who may be experiencing you know some of those um symptoms of what you what you would call like a spiritual emergency or an emotional mental state that's dis or like a nervous system state that's dysregulated or detached from reality in different moments how how do you support men in that

yeah So much, I mean, I could say, this is one of my favorite topics, this particular one, spiritual emergency.

The first is just making sure people are safe because depending on what's happening, you know, some people, most people are safe who might be in some kind of emergency.

And there are some people that just making sure that they're eating food, that they're getting enough sleep and that, um, you know, they're drinking water.

Those are three big things.

Sometimes when people are in these experiences, they might start to deprive themselves of food.

They just don't feel like eating and fasting is a legitimate spiritual practice.

whoo it rocked my world and luckily I was held in a space where like everyone could remind me who I was I came out of a Temezcal completely sober it was like a yeah crazy Temezcal in Ecuador just that the heat and the you know they're pouring the water on rocks it's like a sweat lodge and the prayers whatever it was something just went inside of me and yeah being able to ground back into reality and it scared the shit out of me you know completely spiraling in my my experience um but yeah i i love just mentioning that that can be the breakdown can be the breakthrough there's nothing wrong with anything that may be happening to anybody listening know that you're not alone and even both of us speaking here like can relate and uh and yeah it's all gonna be okay um but yeah having that intentionality i think around that specific pattern of not chasing altered states I think is huge because we see that as well like in men who get into this work all the time where they're looking for the non-ejaculatory orgasmic state or you see it in people you know doing tons of kundalini practices and awakening the kundalini energy and there's like kundalini syndrome you know there's psychosis that's documented that happens from people doing this so this is a great you know thing to speak to, I think for anyone being drawn into this work.