Is where you're at now where you wanted, a little bit

past it, or not quite there? That's a great question.

I think it's kind of a mix of all of those things, because I think our ambition has always been really for a lightning-fast trajectory to get to having multiple show seasons, things like that, that we really have been aiming for.

But I think the things that we've been able to accomplish in such a short amount of time, really, if you look back at it, while it's been two seasons, it's been less than two years for us to accomplish what we've accomplished and have two professional productions under our belt, work smoothly with Actors Equity Association, bring in actors from across the entire United States to work with us.

We're putting Fresno on the map in a really specific way in the theater community.

I think that's really exciting.

So how hard has it been to both energize the Central Valley and to, and I don't mean this in a bad way, educate the Valley on Shakespeare?

Yeah, there's a little bit of both of that.