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if I'm a Texas fan, because all I know is if we show up and there's a good defense on the other side, a very good defense, I don't have the quarterback and I don't have the coach that's gonna overcome it, and I thought I did.

Um, the only way Oklahoma was gonna win this game, Oklahoma has a bad quarterback, a bad offense.

They, they just can't do anything.

They, uh, John Mateer lost them the game at Michigan.

He got them blown out against Georgia, and then he showed up and he didn't exactly lead them to victory here, but they needed a, a special team's touchdown, they needed a pick six, and Arch gave them the pick six, and then Arch gave them a...

What e- what else are we gonna hit? Oh, the SEC is just

And this cast was terrified to make big moves.

And Tommy Smokes fucked it up for everybody there at the end.

But that's where I'll bring this one in because he made a lot of loud, big moves, and he made a big, loud move early.

It wasn't the time.

It was the wrong move.

It was Dana that ended up snaking him out of the game.

Eventually, Nick was going to carry him for a while, and you got the wrong guy out.

But, uh, but yeah, to your point where like, everyone's kind of locked up at the end and you're in this position and, Did you at any point think that that there was anybody else like either either Marty, Dana or Glennie that you could potentially sway to go your way? Like, was there ever that hope of like, I could get one of these guys to screw over one of their friends?

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He's, he's endemi- he's endemic.

Right.

They're still very much in the mix.

And the reason I'd push back on Texas is I just, I just don't like the, uh, the, the, the whispers around the program right now.

It feels like Sark never really has that thing where he's like, you know, I know Signatti at Indiana is a firm leader, and that thing is tight.

Georgia, Kirby Smart, same thing, even though they have the, you know, the off-the-field stuff with the, with the driving and stuff.

But I don't feel that at Texas.

I feel like it's always a tenuous grip on being the leader of that team, and you don't hear great things about Arch right now, and the schedule is so nasty.

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What preseason ranking did you see whenever they released the first official and think, "Nah, that ain't true"?

true"?So the, there's an obvious one, but then I wanna dig a little deeper, Bobby.

I want you to dig with me.

I'm gonna give you a shovel.

We're gonna dig in a second.

But the number one preseason ranking that I think is gonna end up looking foolish is Texas A&M.

Last year, they got to the playoff.

What's one program that you think people still feel is a powerhouse because they won for a long time, and now they're not that anymore?

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Is it the goose be bone bruise?

Not really the bone bruise.

It's the, just the sheer numbers.

It is really ...

When you really think about the SEC and who all thinks they're gonna be good, there's not enough oxygen in the room.

There's not enough air.

There's not enough ...

[laughs]

okay so okay so you saw great oklahoma teams you saw a program that was on national television all the time before everybody was on national television all the time i am curious what did you grow up and even you know before you really got into this business what was your thought on the oklahoma program in general

oh i thought it was uh You know, in my childhood, I thought it was probably the standard of college football, at least one of the standards.

In the 80s, you know, there's a short list of teams that were the standards of college football.

Miami, of course, Oklahoma being one of those.

So they're one.

And then in 2000, when I was 21 years old, you know, really, I'm in college, and I'm coming into my own as an adult sports fan.

You know, Bob Stoops comes out of nowhere.

yeah no i've heard you i saw where you addressed uh a report somebody had seven teams that can win it you added oklahoma as an eighth i know i know you do like like this oklahoma team for for sure um the oklahoma fan do you deal with fans on your show all the time the brandon walker college football show and on barstool at bfw show brandon's at bfw uh on twitter um generalize generalizing fan bases is dangerous but it happens all the time how do you how do you heart of heart generalize the oklahoma sports fan sooners fan

okay so okay so you saw great oklahoma teams you saw a program that was on national television all the time before everybody was on national television all the time i am curious what did you grow up and even you know before you really got into this business what was your thought on the oklahoma program in general

oh i thought it was uh You know, in my childhood, I thought it was probably the standard of college football, or at least one of the standards.

In the 80s, you know, there's a short list of teams that were the standards of college football.

Miami, of course, Oklahoma being one of those.

So they're one.

And then in 2000, when I was 21 years old, you know, really, I'm in college, and I'm coming into my own as an adult sports fan.

You know, Bob Stoops comes out of nowhere.

yeah no i've heard you i saw where you addressed uh a report somebody had seven teams that can win it you added oklahoma as an eighth i know i know you do like like this oklahoma team for for sure um the oklahoma fan do you you deal with fans on your show all the time the brandon walker college football show and on barstool at bfw show brandon's at bfw uh on twitter um generalize generalizing fan bases is dangerous but it happens all the time how do you how do you heart of heart generalize the oklahoma sports fan sooners fan

Who are your Heisman Trophy runners, I mean front runners, and also is Arch Manning legitimately a guy that should be in that conversation right now based on his

performance last year? Yeah, no, I think it's exactly because of his performance last year.

He's been in the conversation.

Here's one of the ball-knower things that if you just put this out in the world, people will respond to you with complete anti-ball-knower takes.

You'll say, Arch Manning is going to be a Heisman Trophy finalist this year.

And they come back and they say, you only say that because of his name.

You only say that because he's a five-star.

Wow,

Why so?

So last night, uh, um, I, I used a clip of Joel Klatt, you know, the, one of the great voices in college football.

He said there's seven teams that can win the national title.

Um, and it's the seven teams everybody talks about.

You know, Miami, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Georgia, Oregon, Indiana, couple others.

Anyway, he didn't have Oklahoma in that group, and the more I look at Oklahoma, the more I believe they belong because if you look at how teams have won national titles in the last couple of years, they get to the playoff and then that defense takes over.

They just choke teams out.

Who are your Heisman Trophy runners or runner, I mean, front runners? And also is Arch Manning legitimately a guy that should be in that conversation right now based on his performance last year?

Why so?

So last night, uh, um, I, I used a clip of Joel Klatt, you know, the, one of the great voices in college football.

He said there's seven teams that can win the national title.

Um, and it's the seven teams everybody talks about.

You know, Miami, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Georgia, Oregon, Indiana, couple others.

Anyway, he didn't have Oklahoma in that group, and the more I look at Oklahoma, the more I believe they belong because if you look at how teams have won national titles in the last couple years, they get to the playoff and then that defense takes over.

They just choke teams out.

Who are your Heisman Trophy runners, or runner, I mean, front runners? And also, is Arch Manning legitimately a guy that should be in that conversation right now based on his performance last year?

Okay.

Uh, I, I, uh, I grew up in the '80s.

I was five years old in '84.

Cosby Show debuted in '84.

I believe I am the pre-eminent Cosby Show lover in the world.

I don't think there's a person who loved The Cosby Show as much as me or more than me anywhere on this earth.

I have seen every single episode many, many times.

This guy's talking.

[laughs]

Yeah.

Uh, but anyway, so Babe Didrikson Zaharias, born in, uh, Beaumont, Texas.

Port Arthur, Texas.

She, she's from that area.

Um, this woman excelled in every single sport in the first half of the century.

She was a, a gold medalist in the javelin throwShe was gold medalist in the 800 and in the 80 meter hurdles, which they had back then.

When did she pick up golf?

Wait, you tweeted at Ocho too?

I, uh, I was, I had to go to Miami for the Orange Bowl one time in, like, 2014, and I just, I had been dying to get Ochocinco's attention.

I just, I, I just thought he was the funniest dude on Twitter, and I would, I kept, uh, @ing him on Twitter and saying like, "Ocho, I'm coming to Miami.

What's the move?"

If they get mad or frustrated or, or bad?

Or if they're bad.

Like, uh, Smitty one time grabbed me.

He said, "I got Wendell, Wendell Carter Jr. in here to play 2K, and I, I don't play 2K.

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That's your reply to what I'm going to say.

No, you're just going to say, no, that's a new untold story.

Hey, is that

Shit.

I used to go to bed hungry, man.

All the time.

You can't mention little

Stuart.

I just served you breakfast.

I had a topic.

What you got? Is that alright? Yeah.

I'm always honored to come on the show, and I always realize I'm beholden to whatever you guys want to talk about.

So I decided I would bring you something.

your

If Indiana

has gotten to the top of the sport by cheating, again, big capital I, capital F, if, doesn't that make sense? Because Michigan got to the top of the sport with their own cheating scandal a couple of years ago, and nothing happened.

Nothing.

NCAA said nothing, did nothing.

Nobody got in trouble.

Connor Stallions has a ban or whatever.

Who cares? He's a low-level assistant who is helping the operation.

They're getting something in the background that's triggering them.

And being a really good team.

Being a really good team, looking like a really good team.

The quarterback's really good.

The offense is really good.

They look every bit like a really good team.

And that's fine to- in- in- in the beginning of November, the end of October, to look at Miami, look at Notre Dame after Miami loses two games to unranked teams, and say, "Oh, yeah, Notre Dame really looks better right now.

I'm gonna put them up." But now that we have a full picture, 12 games for every single team, the committee can look at 12 games for Miami, 12 games for Notre Dame.

Oh.

Bobo? Yeah, it's a tough name to be a bad offensive coordinator.

Uh, when you, when you talk about, when you talk about Kirby Smart, I, I talk about like a coach who's got a killer instinct.

When he's playing these teams he's better than, he's out there, he's grabbing players' helmets, he's yelling at them, he's, he's fiery.

And the players go out there and they're playing with their hair on fire.

Against Alabama, he's, the guy comes to the sideline and makes a mistake, he just grabs him by the little face mask and talks to him very gently, pats him on the butt.

Like he changes his demeanor, he changes everything, and I think it goes to his team.

Remember that fourth quarter drop that Georgia had? Wide open touchdown, guy drops it.

It would have been over.

Yep.

Ha ha, funny, yay, everybody got to laugh.

Anyway, we had a competition on that show.

I won it handily.

I mean, handily.

And y- we haven't mentioned it for 365 days until this moment right now.

Let's just start, uh, where do you guys wanna start? You wanna start SEC? E- you know what, you get to decide where you wanna start, Brandon, because you are the reigning college football expert on Pardon My Take.

I wanna start with a take that I have put out there and everybody seems to be allergic to, that when you pick a Texas to win, uh, the national title, everybody's fine.

(laughs)

Um, in 2014 Mississippi State, who had never been ranked, uh, number one in the country was number one for five glorious weeks, from mid-October to mid-November when we lost in Alabama at Tuscaloosa.

Uh, Dak Prescott is the reason that happened.

It has been a love-hate relationship ever since with Dak and the Cowboys because I've hated the Cowboys my entire life.

I was, uh...

When they won three out of four Super Bowls in the '90s, I was 12, 13, 14 years old.

So they were a dominant team during my formative years.

Fix it.

Correct.

Whereas a playoff is just that, you are playing off to find out who's the best team at the end.

There's no guarantee you're gonna have some aesthetically pleasing games along the way.

You've just collected, through a 12-team, a 12-game sample size, who deserves to be here.

We pretty much got that this year.

I don't know that, uh, it was perfect, but we got that.

We can't help that some of the games weren't as good.

Uh, so is this just gonna be Ohio State kicking their ass?