And, uh, I guess the kickstart things being that it's the glide bait show, uh, is, uh, do you remember your first bass you caught on a glide bait and what glide bait that was?

I don't know if I can remember.

The exact first one, as far as like fish catch, I have a lot of really memorable ones on this bait.

but I, I, I can't specifically remember like the exact first one.

Like I remember amazing days in the beginning stages of throwing a glide and like getting a buddy in the boat and be like, dude, you gotta come throw a glide with me.

Um, you know, and this is like, this is years ago.

This is probably eight to 10 years ago, something like that.

What is for, for somebody that sees those baits, is there a reason to go past that a hundred, $150 mark? Like what? And if you, if so, like what are the advantages of getting to spend that kind of money?

So how much history do you have with the Kissimmee chain when it comes to Florida? And what are your thoughts on Okeechobee having it again and then Kissimmee chain not having it?

I think the anytime you have a Florida event and it can go either way, forward facing sonar, non forward facing sonar, It's always interesting to me because there are certain Florida lakes where I feel like it will play more.

Last time we were at Okachobee, we had forward-facing sonar.

I used it.

I know a lot of the other guys used it.

it will get used a lot this time.

Um, Okeechobee is just not the same fishery that it was last or, you know, back in early two thousands or when I started on the elites, like it's just not the same fishery.

Some thoughts from you as well as you've been just a user of those technologies for a long time.