Mm-hmm.

And like Re- Randy Katari, who was filming all of Dale's stuff, like this is about the same time they started on the video side.

So my wife started taking photos.

Um, she got hired by a bunch of different organizations, ropings, um, around that area, and she was just going and taking pictures.

Well, then people started asking like, "Hey, do y'all do video?" And we were like, "No, we don't really do video right now." Like, I wasn't even taking pictures yet.

And, um, I was like, "You know what we're gonna do? I, I'm gonna go buy the newest iPhone because it shoots in 4K and I'm gonna start videoing stuff." And like by this time I was out of college.

I graduated, like I said, from, uh, I graduated from Sam Houston State with a degree in ag engineering and technology.

How do you kind of manage that dynamic?