When you finally settled in your heart, this is where God wants me to be, what were you thinking, this is how this could look, or this is what I would hope it looks like here at Williams? Mm-hmm.

Well, the funny thing is it wasn't something I was looking for, which I know many times in life that can be a sign of the Lord's leading when it's something that sort of circumstantially just happens and you're not trying to make something happen.

And that's where I was.

And At that time, and a little bit of a backstory coming into that, I had taught for over a decade at East Tennessee State.

Right around COVID, I went and started driving a truck.

I went and got my CDL and kind of got out of higher education for a little while.

And I enjoyed that, actually.

So you encouraged a lot of senior adults that are not necessarily in the best place of their life, but you showed up with your family and with our students, and you ministered to them in a profoundly deep way.