and that actually takes us not segues nicely into the point that jared was just making which is that we have three stat blocks here including the mage apprentice and the mage apprentice uh did not apparently appear in the monster manual from 2014 but did appear elsewhere

yeah uh the it appears as the apprentice wizard wizard Envolo's Guide to Monsters.

And, I mean, they are not terribly useful.

I'm going to be real about it.

But...

Yeah, I think that any way you slice it, you've got to sort of say to yourself that just Arcane Burst all by itself is quite a lot better than what The Apprentice Wizard has going on.

um it's not especially close because the their attack cantrips are uh in volos are as a first level spot caster they're one die of damage plus the modifier that friends it ain't much um

Anything else on mages?