part of Toronto.

It's the GTA.

Classic bedroom community.

From there, I had an opportunity to go to Altus Group and their development consulting and cost business.

So that was fantastic because it kind of gave baptism by fire in terms of how to look at development projects.

At that time, King West was being built up.

There were a lot of luxury hotels going up in the city.

So we just talk about that and how you balance the fiduciary obligation to do the right thing and protect your investors.