You know a lot about buildings, so we thought you might be able to help us figure this out.

Of course.

Let's keep drilling down on this one, Anna, [cymbals crash] 'cause that's an important difference.

A building isn't what makes a church the church.

See, I've built a church or two in my day.

When we build a church, in a lot of ways it's just like any other building we build.

We draw a plan, do some digging, lay a foundation, then we build it.

Like way back in the day, did builders even build buildings for Jesus's friends and followers?

You know what I'm saying?

And, and to my point, I think Xavier Woods, if we go back to the origin of UpUpDownDown, he really helped, like, without even people knowing it, breaking down those doors and kind of taking kayfabe away because now all of a sudden, yeah, the Usos and New Day been feuding, but you're still gonna see them-

That's my shit.

I, I do think to an extent both Mark Henry and Booker T don't necessarily get...

Like, I don't understand, don't get me wrong, I love Kofi Kingston, so I'm perfectly happy that he is considered the first Black WWE Champion, at least 100%, but Mark Henry and Booker T, to me, like, the distinguishment between those titles has always been silly to me.

Like, because they gave them the World Heavyweight Championship, like, so they're not in the conversation.

You know what I mean?

[laughs]

One, they are-It is related to the seasonality of, of the fruit, of the vegetable.

Um, flowers so much of the time are, are imported.

They're not organic to the, to the moment.

Whereas rhubarb or asparagus...

I went to the grocery store this morning, looked at asparagus, but it wasn't seasonal.

You, your argument is that you are giving Julie flowers because asparagus are flowers? Do I understand that correctly?

Um, not so much that they're flowers, but that they are beautiful, um, elements of nature.

Hmm

... is because we're willing to learn.

Like, the amount of times that I've gotten an email from an artist being like, "Hey, who are we gonna get to do a template from, for this vinyl?" And I'm like, "I'm gonna do it." And they're like, "Really?" A- and it's, it's always surprising when artists that I work with aren't, like, already ahead of that themselves, you know? 'Cause it's just, like, naturally, a, a lot of people I talk to, and myself, just, like, you just know how to do that.

It's, like, obvious.

You know the technical aspects of, like, what a pressing plant or-- needs, or, or what a YouTube video needs to be shot at, or, I don't know, whatever, you know? It's like, you don't have to hire somebody.

So of course I'm gonna learn that.

You know, I've probably saved hundreds of thousands of dollars over the years because I have only ever done my own album art, and I've only ever done my own videos.

Okay.

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Uh, and then I got, I think his ice rookie.

I thought that was pretty cool.

So I wanted to just c- start collecting the, uh, the ice premiers or like the out of 99 ones just for something to do.

And um, I had a buddy of mine, well, I was talking to this guy online.

He was always, uh, show me cards he had for sale and he said, "I went to an expo and I c- picked up these," and they were the, the acetates.

And um, there was six of them in like a little lot, so I just said, "Those are really cool." So when I bought them, I just, when I got them in the mail, I s- "Wow, these are like the most beautiful cards-

And they were in SP Authentic, were they not, or no?

What is it about this team? Why did you wanna join? Is it kind of something that you've always been interested in?

Um, well, I've been interested in the, the paranormal for a long time anyway.

I've been kind of empathic my whole life.

I've been able to feel things, feel the spirits, feel, I guess, the entities for a very long time.

Um, started ghost hunting with a few other teams around here, 'cause I've been, I've been ghost hunting for, what, six, seven years now, and did a few investigations in and around Broken Wings, and they're just more of a, of family to me.

I was very drawn, drawn to them, uh, to the way they investigate, the professionalism that they bring to investigations, even though it is Erica and Susie and [laughs]

[laughs]

... um, a lot of disembodied voices.