Brad Plumer, what is your blistering summary on this blistering story?

Well, thanks so much for having me.

So this idea, some people call it heat batteries, thermal batteries, thermal storage.

I don't feel like we've really settled on a good term, which can make it a little frustrating for journalists.

This idea has been kicking around for quite some time.

And this Company I wrote about, Antora, I first started talking to them, geez, maybe two years ago.

You know, thought it was super interesting.

And two, any sense of like total pollution savings nationwide, worldwide?

But couldn't theoretically the United States do both? Like, couldn't we double down on the existing infrastructure in order to power our AI arms race, but also recognize that green energy is probably a big part of the future, and try to invest in that as well?

So there are certainly a lot of people and a lot of tech companies that think you don't actually have to choose, that trying to expand the use of gas alongside the use of renewable energy would be the best strategy moving forward, that if we want as much energy as possible, if we want as much electricity as possible, and we want to keep it as cheap as possible, we should really be investing in everything.

But that is really not the Trump administration's view.

They are quite hostile to renewable energy, particularly wind and solar power, and just do not agree with the view that we should have an all-of-the-above energy strategy.

And y- you know, Chris Wright, the energy secretary, has even said that.

The old Republican position on energy was that we should have an all-of-the-above energy policy.

We should promote all energy sources and try to get as much of it as possible.

Are we to infer then that basically the administration has decided that the threat of losing the renewables arms race is just not as big of a deal as losing the AI arms race, right? That basically whatever costs we're going to pay in terms of climate change or ceding the manufacturing of solar panels to China, for instance, that that is worth stomaching in order to win that AI arms race.