Is that fair to say? And consequently, cyber risk is an HSE risk.

Yep.

One million percent.

And you have to think of like, where is that data going? And you're dealing with PPE, but you're also dealing with PPI, which is your personal identifiable information.

So PII, excuse me, personal identifiable information.

And all of that information, all that telemetry data tells me exactly where you are, what condition you're in, and that becomes a risk.

And that, those biometrics, those levels and those elements, all that data has to land somewhere.

And you come in and what do you do? An assessment or you look at what kind of protection, cyber risk protection you have in place right now and then you figure out where the weaknesses are or you strengthen that or what do you do?

Where did you see a blind spot in this report that maybe you expected to see a solution?

Yeah, absolutely.

So it's an amazing report.

And the country has decided to build a shield around its skies.

But the real decision is with the real money behind it and every piece of that shield.

So the radars, the interceptors, the command and control, the satellites, it all runs on software.

And the underlying elements on the ground level with, you know, under that dome.

What is a better approach, especially when all of these systems have to work together, but they may not all be connected so you can't push a patch that gets to everything all together? What are you all suggesting?

Where did you see a blind spot in this report that maybe you expected to see a solution?

Yeah, absolutely.

So it's an amazing report.

And the country has decided to build a shield around its skies.

But the real decision is with the real money behind it and every piece of that shield.

So the radars, the inceptors, the command and control, the satellites, it all runs on software.

And the underlying elements on the ground level with, you know, under that film.

What is a better approach, especially when all of these systems have to work together, but they may not all be connected so you can't push a patch that gets to everything all together? What are you all suggesting?

It's like.

I just read a report like this is called the 60% problem and it was.

You know it's 60 basically even Google came out and said like the best score any model really comes out.

It's like 60%.

And and you know.

If you're dealing with hallucinations, you're dealing with a lot of those aspects, so you know it's it's it's interesting to see you know how that's going to work itself out.

And how all that matches with all the economics and where security actually falls in with all of this.

It's

We're seeing, you know, Berkshire Hathaway and Chubb have gotten legislative approval to, uh, exclude AI from general liability, D&O, E&O, um, you know, in other, in other insurance lines where you'd think the first one would be cyber.

I'll start off with like the, the situation first.

So basically over 80% of providers are now entertaining these e-exclusions.

So Berkshire Hathaway, Chubb, Travelers, like you said, that they're starting to have these AI exclusions.

So basically if you have any kind of damages and you do the root cause analysis and you find that AI was the culprit or involved in any way, shape, or form...

You know, it's-- I, I live in Florida, so basically it's kind of like we have our regular home insurance and then you have, uh, wind insurance.

So, you know, if there's a named hurricane, uh, or named storm, like you're kind of SOL if on your regular policy unless you have a wind policy in, in all mortgages.

You know, Brad, you had mentioned that one of the newer modules on, on your tech now is gonna help, you know, kind of track down shadow AI, right? Which I guess for those of you who don't know, like AI that's out there that is not authorized by, you know, by the IT, uh, and the, and the sort of the, the general like, uh, you know, limitations of the company.