And as it relates to the space domain, what does interoperability look like for NATO?

Yeah, I think a couple of things.

One, NATO declared space an operational domain in 2019, but they're continuing to struggle with defining what does that mean in practice.

And so we see a lot of activity, but not necessarily the most coherent.

For example, there are programs like the Allied Persistent Surveillance from Space, which is looking down like overhead imagery images.

3SAS is focused on looking up.

There's a launch capability.

So to tie it back to the Ankara summit, what conversation needs to happen today to make sure that NATO or a NATO nation doesn't find themselves in a similar position?